And I think Bob Dylan and his creative approach really influenced the Macintosh profoundly through Steve Jobs as well as others on the team and continues to influence me. You know, it’s shaped me, it’s shaped my feelings about the world, and of course that’s what shapes your designs. A phrase I sometimes use is “rebel spirit”. I think Bob Dylan was full of rebel spirit, and I think great products are, too. Because the status quo isn’t good enough, so, to do radical innovation is an act of rebellion.
